October 7, 2024

Suderman Electrical Estimating In-person Course 2 (Advanced) – Surrey

Electrical Estimating Course 2 (Advanced) is an in-depth hands-on course that provides the participant with the opportunity to learn advanced electrical estimating techniques for systems, distribution, service equipment, motor power and control.

Date & Time

Monday, October 7, 2024 (8:00 am pt) – October 8, 2024 (4:30 pm pt)


E.B. Horsman & Son - Head Office & Distribution Centre
Training Room - 19295 25 Ave, Surrey, BC V3Z 3X1


PREREQUISITE: Suderman Electrical Estimating Course 1 (Basic). There is no opportunity to re-schedule or for a partial refund if a student cannot attend both sessions.

Day 1
Estimating Fundamentals (review only)
  • What is an estimate?
  • Role of an estimator
  • Setting up to estimate
  • Methods of estimating
  • Estimating tools and forms
  • Labour manual use
  • Pricing
Detailed Takeoff (review only)
  • Review drawings and specifications
  • Organization of estimate
  • Reviewing of addendums
  • Measuring and counting
  • Use of forms
Phases of a Job, Layout and Estimate
  • Fire Alarm, design, and takeoff
  • Service & distribution pannel 600A
  • Service & QMQB panel board 2000A
  • CDP Panel board & feeder, 400A
  • Remove existing service and feeder
  • Buss Duct 600A & feeder
  • Motor Control Center, 8 motors & controls, design and takeoff
  • Install new 2000A switchgear, rework feeders
  • 5KV Service
Day 2 
Pricing, Labouring, and Summarizing
  • Listing of material
  • Pricing and labouring units and extension
  • Summarizing labour cost
  • Non-productive labour
  • Job expenses
  • Subcontracts, testing and engineering
  • Mark-up and profit
  • Job closing
Introduction to Using a Computer Estimating
  • Advantages of using computerized estimating
  • Set up of job to take-off
  • Inputting of take-off
  • Typical extension and recap sheet
Miscellaneous Information
  • Extras on a jobsite
  • Hourly cost of a vehicle
  • Hourly charge out rate
  • Examples of unit pricing
  • Quotation letter
  • Progress draws on a project
Course materials (provided):
  • Suderman Estimating Systems Labour Manual (provided in Course 1)
  • Scale (provided in Course 1)
  • Drawings, specifications, and work sheets for eight takeoffs
  • Additional information relating to estimating


John F. Wiesel

President, Suderman Estimating Systems Inc

John F. Wiesel has been estimating and teaching estimating since the early 1980s. With 45 years of experience in the electrical industry – from journeyman, foreman, project manager, estimator, designer, sales to vice president of a major electrical mechanical firm – he is a qualified international construction consultant with a broad knowledge base.

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Cancellation Policy


Fees will be collected at the time of registration. Should it be necessary to cancel your attendance, please contact ECABC at any time up to four (4) weeks prior to the course start date for a full refund. A cancellation from two (2) weeks to four (4) weeks will result in a 50% refund. There will be no refund for cancellations less than 10 business days prior to the scheduled start date. Participant substitutions may be made up to two (2) days before the course start date, at no additional fee.

IMPORTANT NOTE FOR COMBO PURCHASE: As Course 2 is considered an extension of Course 1, the aforementioned cancellation policy is in effect as in relation to the Course 1 start date. Any exceptions to this rule are at the discretion of the ECABC President and course instructor.

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